r/worldnews • u/Logibenq • 4h ago
Russia/Ukraine Spaniards see Trump as the greatest threat to world peace, ahead of Putin
https://english.elpais.com/spain/2026-04-10/spaniards-see-trump-as-the-greatest-threat-to-world-peace-ahead-of-putin.html780
u/grathontolarsdatarod 4h ago
Because he is leading around the world like Putin's chub. Brushing up against everyone, being inappropriate and ruining the mood.
I can't think of much over the last 12 months that the us has done that hasn't been a directed and unprecedented benefit to Russia and Russian interests.
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u/unusedusername666 4h ago
The Spaniards, great people, beautiful country, they’re saying I’m the greatest treat to world peace. Think of that. A treat. Like a gift. Like a beautiful, delicious gift to the world. Nobody’s ever seen anything like it.
They’ve got me ahead of Putin—way ahead. Not even close. They’re saying, “Trump brings peace, Trump brings strength, Trump brings… treats.” I don’t even know what that means exactly, but it sounds fantastic. Probably means I’m very nice, very generous. Maybe the best.
And I’ll tell you, when Spain says something like that, you listen. They know history, they know leadership. They looked at everybody—everybody—and they said, “Nope, Trump is the one.” Incredible.
So we’re leading in peace, we’re leading in treats, we’re leading in everything. And frankly, the world is a much safer place when I’m around. Everybody knows it—even the Spaniards.
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u/yuvattar 3h ago
It's crazy that I can easily read this in Trump's voice :D
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u/flappity 2h ago
It's because he has like 8 total sentence structures he cycles between and just replaces the nouns with other nouns. He's probably said almost exactly these sentences with other places/names before.
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u/The_Barbelo 1h ago
HorseLooseInHospital is still the reigning champ of Trump impersonation imo. I’m always looking for him in the comments.
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u/bboycire 3h ago
Putin is calculated, Trump just throws dart at random things
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u/Arkhaine_kupo 2h ago
Putin is calculated
Nothing quite like losing the first Georgia invasion, losing the afghanistan invasion, barely winning the second georgian invasion, and starting a war against a neighbour that kills an entire generation of young men and drowns your central bank in long term payments that you couldnt pay back if you invented the cure for cancer and quantum computing on the same day.
If that is the calculating guy, his ti-84 might be out of bateries...
Putin's only long term success is bamboziling the germans into thinking they were redeemable (and well getting Trump elected).
everything else has gone tits up for them
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u/bboycire 2h ago
Well, over confidence is a hell of a drug 😆
There's also a proverb: it's easy to ride a beast, the hard part is getting down... Safely
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u/Tacti_Kel_Nuke 1h ago
Which invasions of Georgia? The 2008 war where they won? And Putin wasn't in charge when they invaded Afghanistan
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u/Alpacapalooza 4h ago
I can't think of much over the last 12 months that the us has done that hasn't been a directed and unprecedented benefit to Russia and Russian interests.
Yes, Russia profits from the increase in oil revenue but overall they have lost a ton of influence in the region. What is an alliance with Russia worth, looking at what's happened? Zilch.
I think for me this is one of the few times where I'm erring more on the side of him being a useful idiot than intentional agent.
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u/EnoughPrimary6700 4h ago edited 3h ago
Too many "idiotic" coincidences? Kremlin praises US for good alignment? Sanctions lifted? If it's too good to be a coincidence, it probably isn't.
(Edit: typo "coincidence")
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u/OlGreggMare 2h ago
During Putin's remaining life, have they achieved all of their goals in the region? I'm genuinely curious. Maybe Russia has no more use for the cost of the Middle East. I assume very unlikely
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u/grathontolarsdatarod 4h ago
They do not require influence when the united states does what they need and want.
If it isn't intentional, why is POTUS basically operating on Moscow time zone?
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u/hornswoggled111 4h ago
I think the issue is partly that Trump is awful at being helpful.
And while I know he is trying to cuddle up to Putin and other dictator he has fucked up so much for Putin. Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and now Iran.
Maybe Trump is jealous of the attention Putin gave them?
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u/Litty_Again 3h ago
How exactly did they lose influence in the region? Since Iran won this part of the war, it actually might shift in their direction on the long term, meaning gulf states too btw.
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u/Desperides 3h ago
What is an alliance with Russia worth? As much as it ever was. What is an alliance with the United States worth these days? Absolutely nothing.
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u/wobbleeduk85 4h ago
Not to mention the government thats supposed to be in place to safeguard from all this is sleeping on their fat asses, collecting money at the expense of humanity.
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u/cytokine7 3h ago
That’s because Putin is quiet
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u/redacted_robot 3h ago
And calculating.
No way trump could have been a kgb officer.
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u/Clavicymbalum 2h ago
that's one of the differences between being a kgb/fsb officer and a kompromat-controlled kgb/fsb asset/lapdog/puppet
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u/ChicoZombye 1h ago
And because everyone gets together to stop Russia or contain it.
If USA does something stupid, there's no way of stopping it (and since we are in his side, we would be the baddies). Trump can fuck uf things bigger and faster than Putin for the NATO countries, that's what makes him more dangerous right now.
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u/Spoztoast 3h ago
and he can only really threaten world peace indirectly like say trough Trump. Russia doesn't have the military capabilities to engage in several national wars they barely have enough to keep one front from collapsing.
Outside of the nuclear option Russia isn't a global threat
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u/Sayakai 1h ago
Putin is not quiet. Putin is literally fighting a war of conquest in Europe and arming up for the next one.
It's because there's a nuclear power between Spain and Russia.
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u/Whatever_Lurker 4h ago
Stupidity is more dangerous than malice.
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u/3catsincoat 4h ago
Both combined are the worst. With a dose of malignant, narcissistic megalomania.
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u/Cirenione 2h ago
Also Putin is somewhat predictable. On the other hand Trump may start a war tomorow, decide to tariff his allies for 100% on tuesday and by friday claims none of those things ever happened.
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u/Raverjames 4h ago
Weaponized Stupidity!
Iran: it's got what Americans crave! It's got electrolytes!
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u/ScalabrineIsGod 4h ago
The way I see it the malicious owner let their stupid and aggressive attack dog off the leash. And now it’s just menacing throughout the neighborhood, getting into peoples yards, attacking their pets. Given how it was trained though, the owner is getting exactly what they wanted.
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u/noradosmith 41m ago
Reminds me a bit of the dark knight when Michael Caine says "they let a man loose who they didn't fully understand" or something along those lines
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u/MeeShaBlue 2h ago
Because Trump has the strongest military in the world behind him, and putins military is very incompetent. They have similar ideals, Trump wields more power.
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u/thatguywhomadeafunny 57m ago
America is effectively a rogue state at the moment, conducting atrocities at the whims of a madman. Congress is supposed to be one of the checks and balances on the President, but they are sitting back and doing nothing. November can’t come soon enough.
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u/Not_a_N_Korean_Spy 4h ago
¿porque no los dos?
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u/Krieghund 2h ago
If there ever was a time for the "Porque no los dos" meme, this is it.
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u/Normaali_Ihminen 4h ago
Trump is an idiot baffoon. Putin on other hand is meticulously planner and pathological liar. So I pick Putin
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u/mgzkk1210 2h ago
Putin on other hand is meticulously planner and pathological liar.
Trump is an even bigger pathological liar, so much so Captain Hook can count the number of true statement that came out of his mouth, on his hook hand.
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u/ChicoZombye 2h ago
Trump is an idiot who's a pathological liar with the biggest and most dangerous army in the world.
I think you forgot some key things on Trump's side, also he behaves like a Russian asset, which means Putin could be the one managing Trump, but that's for another talk.
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u/Shot-Toe-2884 3h ago
Yea I get the sentiment but it’s also preposterous. Putin is a cunning and carefully calculated psychopath. Trump is a reckless sociopath that shoots himself in the foot unprompted every week.
One is far more effective than the other.
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u/Prestigious-Lab5154 2h ago
Putin couldnt even handle Ukraine's "special operation" so he's kinda harmless for the world. Trump however has a gajillion dollars military complex behind his dumb ass
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u/FixedFun1 2h ago
Spain's hatred for Trump is quite visible, has been mocked on TV and movies a lot. I like that.
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u/Tugasan 3h ago
the sentiment in my country is that people have started to really dislike americans, i really think after trump term is over (if it ever over) trust will take a lot of time to be rebuilt if ever that will be possible, i would not be surprised if he does something unforgivable towards us
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u/Altruistic_Finger669 2h ago
Everybody does. He single handedly caused future global recession with his iran war. Its just waiting for it to arrive.
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u/GNUGradyn 35m ago
The guy who threatened to genocide an entire country because they retaliated to his attacks by closing a shipping route is seen as a threat to world peace? Crazy. Also I bet his supporters will be like "well maybe the world needs a little shake up so America stops getting bullied" or something along those lines. Trump is not particularly predictable but his followers respond pretty predictably
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u/Delde116 4h ago
Spaniard here.
We are scared of both Trump and Putin equally but for different reasons. Russia will intentionally launch a nuke, while Trump will accidentally launch one.
It's like having a trained assassin with a knife vs a toddler with a knife, both are dangerous.
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u/Deadman_Wonderland 2h ago
Trump will absolutely intentionally launch a nuke. We've had idiot presidents, and we've had vicious presidents, but I don't think we ever been cursed with a vicious idiot for a president until now.
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u/TardDas 1h ago
Who are the other idiot presidents? Genuinely asking, curious about American history
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u/Deadman_Wonderland 1h ago
Bush jr, personally lived thru that era. There are plenty to choose from if you go back thru history, like the hoover era but I can't speak much about it as my only context would be from the history books.
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u/alpes1808 2h ago
Funy, even though I am no Spaniard, I live in Spain and my experience is that the people I have talked with about both, perceive Putin/Russia as a far lesser threat or even not at all
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u/wggn 2h ago
Are you aware that Trump literally asked why the US isn't using their nukes to win conflicts?
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html
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u/every-day_throw-away 2h ago
Like Putin but more powerful, more things to blackmail him on and less intelligence.
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u/Aster_E 2h ago
Most of us Americans see it too. Many of us rally and protest, albeit not enough. Many try to make posts or plans online, but the various apps and sites take things down at the best of times. And because the continental region of the country is so massive, with the majority of people, let alone the vast majority of dissenters, being so spread apart, the very act of organizing and joining together is stunted and made Herculean to say the least. But yes, we do see it, and we want him and his sycophants long gone.
Their removal won't fix everything, including the bridges this self-absorbed ass resembling all seven deadly sins has burned in the past almost-fifteen months, but one can hope we can do that much with the system we have left; the system this sack of excrement is trying to dismantle. One can hope enough of us dissenters will finally get up and do something if that fails, because there are too many people relying on our courts, et al., to do the bare minimum.
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u/TeaAndLifting 2h ago
America can project force and it has economic heft. Russia is a shit hole and outside of its world-leading misinformation network, its ability to project force ends on its border. Aerica can project military force anywhere in the world, and can economically wage war with any country, bar China, and come out on top. It is aboslutely more of a threat than Russia, with Trump in charge.
Doubly so when the Trump admin does Russia's bidding, whether he's aware or not.
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u/o5mfiHTNsH748KVq 2h ago
Threat? It’s a threat in the same way I’d be threatened by someone that’s already punched me in the face.
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u/JoshuaZ1 2h ago
At the start of his second term I'd be skeptical of this. Right now, seems spot on. Unfortunately, a major way he is a threat is not just his own outright aggressive idiocy but also the way he is doing so much of Putin's bidding.
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u/mustard138 1h ago
Strangely enough...
So do most Americans..
And so does most of the rest of the world...
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u/1911Earthling 54m ago
Saw that coming. Putin does not have the firepower to attack Ukraine right next door like TRUMP can attack IRAN 6,000 miles away. Putin wishes he had that kind of firepower. Trump is definitely more dangerous. Trump can attack anywhere. Nobody can pull up to your coast with an air armada like the USA can with nuclear aircraft carriers.
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u/LandOfOpportunities 52m ago
At this point all of Europe and every member of nato consider Trump a bigger threat to their own and world peace than Putin.
Trumps ability to destabilise the current world order and diminish the US’ role in keeping some level of stability means that while Putin is a threat through his actions against Ukraine and likely beyond, Trump is a threat to the entire world.
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u/HoneyBadger552 37m ago
theyre not wrong. i am glad to see France and Spain FINALLY call out mangos nonsense. what POTUS is doing has real consequences
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u/scruffman99 3h ago
The man that launches kamikaze drones into Ukrainian apartment buildings is the better person? Propaganda much?
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u/Rukytroll 3h ago
The question was who is a biggest threat not who is a better person... Putin is evil but trump is like a monkey with a gun.
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u/tundra445 4h ago
Yeah, that is quite a ridiculous statement, and quite offensive to Ukraine, when you consider the scale of death and destruction Russia has caused in that country. It's not even comparable.
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u/BlueDahlia123 3h ago
Not necesarily.
Russia is a threat, and it has definitely proven expansionist intentions, but that is something that was already known and other countries have taken some measures to curtail it for decades.
America has the worlds largest economy, the largest military in terms of spending, and was not two years ago still considered an ally by most. Meanwhile, its large amount of soft power, while recently gutted, still makes other countries hesitate against it. But since Trump took office, they have been wildly unpredictable in all fields.
They start a war one day without warning and demand it be ended the next, and other countries do not dare to say no. They announce universal tariffs for no reason and increase them in retaliation to any hint of rudeness. They pull back their humanitarian aid and threaten to pull back even more if someone else does it to them. They maintain and legalise entire internet markets around gambling on international political events, and do nothing when people with stakes on certain outcomes try to force them through pressure. Their president is untrustworthy, yet his social media is often the first place where their policy is made public.
No country had preparations for this. There is no organised pushback. They keep getting everything they want and their demands only keep escalating.
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u/RaymondBeaumont 3h ago
My country is in NATO. Russia isn't going to war with the UK, France, Germany etc.
America has however threatened to annex my neighbouring country, and Trump can't remember if that country is that country, or my country.
For me, America is more of a threat than Russia. For Eastern Europe, it's Russia.
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u/Pariahb 1h ago edited 1h ago
The poll is not about who is more evil or who have gotten more people killed, it's about who is the bigger threat to world peace.
Trump has threatened other NATO countries, and has a lot more powerful military than Putin, and also goes around causing conflicts in different countries. Putin is bogged down in the neighbouring country. So when it comes to who is the bigger threat to world peace, it's Trump. Not that hard to understand.
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u/BoticelliBaby 4h ago
Trump just threatened to annihilate 92 million people a couple of days ago
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u/FerralOne 3h ago
Does Russia not threaten to annihilate more with nuclear warfare on a regular basis?
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u/Ok_Meat8895 3h ago
If either Putin or Kim called on him, he would run as fast as his fat dumb ass could....
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u/crazyboy611285 2h ago
He's finally great at something! Quick somebody give him an award and maybe we'll have peace and quiet for a day or two.
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u/Nivius 2h ago
atleast you can imagine what putin will be doing, and his current fuckery is related to the current region he "working" as of this moment.
trump bounce around and create chaos, chaos and more chaos. then fuck it up and create more chaos. he has a bigger effect on the world, then putin, currently, sad but...
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u/Altruistic-Cow-5386 2h ago
In less than 2 years, he has abducted one head of state, murdered another and waged a war against that country purely do distract from the fact that he (Trump) has raped and murdered children, and he has repeatedly threatened to invade a third country for absolutely no reason...so, yeah, I would say the Spaniards are correct.
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u/FerociouZ 2h ago
Anyone who objectively looks at world history over the last 80 years could see that — but it's not new and it's not Trump, it's the US. If you go bar for bar, atrocity for atrocity, the US has done more to instigate conflicts and overthrow governments than every other country in the world put together.
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u/Pravi_Jaran 2h ago
US Conservatism is a plight on humanity!
A cancer that needs a heavy dose of radiation and chemo therapy.
Who is going to administer the cure? Certainly not feckless Americans.
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u/Have_A_Jelly_Baby 1h ago
Putin is evil.
Trump is stupid AND evil.
Plus Trump hasn't killed off his entire army trying to invade Ukraine.
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u/abeBroham-Linkin 1h ago
It all started last April when he put tariffs on Canada and Mexico. It's all gone down hill since then.
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u/Barbu-Genial 1h ago
Ils ont mille fois raison.
Probablement Netanyahou viens dans la foulée execo avec Poutine.
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u/userisnottaken 1h ago
Ofc he is.
Putin is dangerous for sure but Trump is the president of the country with the highest military spending.
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u/Saltlick_Stables 1h ago
I agree with that and I’m American. Our nation had generations of good standing he's managed to destroy within two years. There’s no floor to his cruelty and it’s not hyperbolic to suggest he’s capable of using nuclear weapons against a fabricated threat to accumulate more wealth and avoid accountability with his involvement in the Epstein scandal.
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u/Enthios 1h ago
That's because he is, he's potentially the greatest threat to world peace we've ever experienced. An idiot with the most powerful military in the world at his disposal who listens to what the world's more intelligent dictators tell him and is one of the most well-known sadists of all time.
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u/IceMysterious3056 1h ago
Trump is Putin puppet anyway 🙄
They all getting old, and want to take the world with them.
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u/Kan4lZ0n3 59m ago
It’s not either-or. They can and should both be pitched, preferably into jail cells.
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u/HardcoreKaraoke 59m ago
When respondents were asked which leaders most endanger global peace, 81% pointed to Trump, compared with 79.3% who cited Putin and 71.2% who named Netanyahu. The rest of the figures suggested by 40dB. rank further behind: Iran’s new supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei (62.9%); North Korea’s Kim Jong‑Un (62.25%); and, at a greater distance, the head of state of the other global superpower, China’s Xi Jinping, at 49.3%.
Yeah that's totally fair. The thing with Trump and the US is that this is a sudden heel turn. We were the "good" guys. We held alliances together. People relied on the US dollar, our military might and our leadership. Putin, Jung-Un and Jinping have always been looked at as radicals by anyone paying attention. They were generally kept on the outskirts of any major alliance because they couldn't be trusted. Netanyahu has been kept in the loop but I think people understood how dangerous and unreliable he is.
So those nations are the threats that we knew. Nations planned to stand against them. Trump has totally flipped the table and now everyone who relied on the US and trusted the US simply can't do that anymore. And unlike a depleted Russia or a small North Korea the US is actually capable of doing the crazy shit Trump says. When those other leaders make grandiose threats it's kind of like "ha okay you're trying to peacock and act tough." But with Trump he might be serious or he might be having a 2am Twitter shit posting session after watching FOX News.
Even if Trump ended the Iran war today no one can trust the US until he's out of office. So world peace can't be achieved with such an unstable variable at the top. He talks about other leaders with such disrespect and talks down to anyone who doesn't kiss his ass. With Putin the world is able to function with Russia not having a seat at the table, but that won't be easy to do without the US. So world peace is more unachievable than ever.
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u/Friendo_Marx 2m ago
The Spaniards dealt with fascism more recently than most other western civilizations. It takes several decades to forget, apparently.
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u/not_just_putin 4h ago
Yeah, russians only want to capture all of Europe, so no need to worry about that.
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u/butwhywedothis 4h ago
The difference between Putin and P(ed)OTUS is that the former was a spy and the latter probably can’t even spell spy.
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u/Successful-Purple-54 4h ago
I’d believe the majority of the world would put trump near the top of threats to the planet. Cunt started a war to delay his pedo details coming out.
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u/LittleG0d 1h ago
I mean, to be fair, any decent person anywhere could think the same nowadays. It is by far not a hard conclusion to reach.
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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 3h ago
Americans see him as that also
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u/AnomalyNexus 2h ago
Alas the world doesn't judge the USA by portions of Americans that are sane but rather what the sovereign nation does as personified by their leader.
Trump represents the USA. It's not up to say europeans to split their perception of the USA into two and somehow say trump bad but /u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace good because you didn't vote for him therefore it's ok. Or put differently the world does not give a fuck that
Americans see him as that also
...they want the USA to sort out their internal BS
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u/68JackDaniels 4h ago
Dumb. Putin has threaten to used nukes multiple times. Say what you want about Trump but he has not done that. Spain must have some TDS
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u/SirHawkwind 4h ago
Hey remember a few days ago when a certain world leader said "a whole civilization will die tonight"? What do you think he was threatening?
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u/loriwilley 3h ago
Trump is more unstable than Putin.
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u/Clavicymbalum 3h ago
Then again, Putin owns Krasnov as his little kompromat-controlled lapdog/asset/puppet and ordered him to (*) destroy NATO and Western alliances, and to destabilize the EU and the USA; so that instability is a wilfully implemented feature for those Kremlin plans that Krasnov is following.
(*) among other things, like driving the oil/gas price up, causing shit that hinders Russia's competitors, making sure the sanctions against Russia disappear, diverting weapons (esp. anti-missile protection) away from Ukraine etc.
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u/droidman85 4h ago
Trump and bibi tomorrow: Spain is the biggest threat to world peace.
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u/MuJartible 4h ago
Just to clarify, they are virtually at the same level.
The poll shows trump with 81% and putin with 80%, but it was made after the start of the war in Iran so all the news and outlets were (are) focusing on it, and that inffluenced the answers. Netanyahu has 79.3% so virtually the same as well. Slightly under, probably because of the perception of the US and russia as bigger military powers.
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u/KaiserSaladSpinner 3h ago
Many Americans share this view. However, forcible removal is still too costly for the average person just trying to survive and provide stability for their families and we have a completely neutered opposition party.
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u/Flat-Emergency4891 2h ago
Ask them why and it certainly lines up. Definitely not a misguided opinion. Have you heard the guy speak?
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u/Dial-Appreciator 3h ago
They’re not wrong. I remember when the news was all worried about “Sleepy Joe” allowing Ukraine to fire long range missiles into Russia. Now Trump is undoing all of that aid because he’s a puppet. The only good thing it’s done is make Europe become more resilient but it’s not as much as what could be done with the USA doing what it should be doing which is in its own interest too (though the orange is too foolish to understand this).
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u/Wise-Climate-3839 2h ago
It's not just Spain guys, literally the whole world if you ask them bar a bunch of americans
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u/Badnik22 4h ago
Evil people act in a predictably rational fashion. Stupid people are unpredictable, so way more dangerous.